Dave's appear to be a bit different than yours Charlie. Dave's seem to have a flatter profile, bigger spots and noticeable tail extensions. I think someone said Dave's may even be LDA-03.

Dave,

I'm still unsure of a lot of the confusion, but I do know that your fish are very similar to what I'm calling L184 based upon the German ID. I just got a surprise from mine this morning. They're still not spawning, haven't tried to stimulate them yet because of a series of bad luck in the fishroom, but noticed the male that is sitting in that cave in my pic is actually the hairiest female Ancistrus I've ever seen. The only noticeable difference between her and the males is longer bristles, 2 rows of bristles on top of the males head versus one on her, and the bulging yellow ovipositor. I really need to make time to spawn these. Anyway, what I was initially convinced was 3 pair because of bristle growth is actually one male and five bearded ladies. I'll take a pic to show later in the week, but have to find time to net her out of her winter home. I had a pump and heater controller both burn out on their central system in late October and simply moved them all to a 75 gallon trough to survive the winter till I have a chance to get replacement parts for the system.

Larry

OK, I got bored after mixing my pH buffers and took a few pics of a very stressed female L184. Definitely different species than the fry listed earlier in the thread, but very similar to ones in Dave's pics. I was out for pics of the tentacles more than ID in these ones, but species opinions are always welcome till we figure this out.

Anyway, time for some pics.





Dave, if you think they're the same species, I have 2 immature females that I may be willing to sell or trade for something interesting.

Larry

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